Michael Parkinson:  My first guest is a former dishwasher who became a global superstar of pop.  He is controversial as he is talented.  He just
released his first album in 4 years (really 8 LOL ) he says it’s the best that he has ever done.  Ladies and Gentlemen:  George Michael.


<Audience applause, applause, applause >


Michael Parkinson:  We can fairly assume you are among friends.  The last time you sat in that chair it was 1998?

George Michael:  1998  yeah.

Michael Parkinson:   It became a controversial, famous interview didn’t it?  And had an affect in your life in a sense?         

George Michael:  Yeah, I have to thank you for that really.  For one you allowed me to put my point of view across.   I didn’t actually let you speak did I ?  
But I just wanted to thank you because it was amazing after that interview.  I think maybe because  I have been off the telly for a long time, people felt I was
unapproachable.  For a while after, people thought I was very approachable.  Apart from the fact that people were so nice to me, they spent their whole time
telling me about their sexual exploits.

<Audience laughter>

And where they have been caught out, and stuff like that.  It was really all entertaining for a best part of a year.  

Michael Parkinson:  So the public perception did change?

George Michael:   Yeah.  People were so affectionate.  It was quite a surprise actually.  Such a nice surprise.  And in a way when you spend so much time
trying to feel what your audience thinks of you through this barrage of negative publicity; umm in a way it reminded me that people had affection for my career
at least and what I have given to them over the years.  It was quite alarmingly, life changing really.  

Michael Parkinson:   But did it make you wonder in that sense why would you be frightened of coming out  in the first place?  You talk about the
public reception, but people have basically said so bloody what  basically.


George Michael:     Yeah.  I don't really think that was the central issue of it for me.   I think the central issue was that I'd been so incredibly private and had
decided years ago that I was going to deal with the fact you know  that the press was all negative  by just not taking part. I did know that to a degree that
allowed them to create   their own character of what I was supposed to be:   this kind of Howard Hughes,  reclusive miserable  figure whatever.   And  I think I
changed that perception because at that point in my life, I just had to come clean and be who I was.   And it turned out to be such a positive experience. I
think it made me in general understand a lot more about myself. It's so strange. It seems a strange thing to say but it was a life changing incident.

Michael Parkinson:  What about in America? Did public perception change there towards you?

George Michael:    Well,  the thing is it’s written that in America my career plummeted after that incident. Truth was it had plummeted years before that.

<Audience laughter>

Absolutely years.  America didn't really change…..on top of being a fairy I’m now apparently a communist

Michael Parkinson:  So you've got the double whammy?

George Michael:   In a way with album I’ve decided I am going to make an effort. I have a million die hard fans in the States that always buy my
stuff. I think a million people is a lot of people so I think I'm going to go and try and  I suppose  re-establish my connection with my audience there.   And also
tell people that haven't heard from me since 1988, I’ve made a few records since then. So you've missed out on a few.


Michael Parkinson:    But when you go there. Do you get singled out by officialdom?

George Michael:  They singled me out a couple of weeks ago actually. I went to Dallas. I'd only to America once in the last couple of years.   Because
contrary to popular opinion, I don't live there I live here.  But I'd only been  out there once.  That went fine, I went to New York.   Then a couple of weeks ago
they stopped me in Dallas airport. They spent  2 hours, 2 hours  trying to  ascertain why my misdemeanor or whatever it was from years ago had not  come off
my passport yet.   I was there for 2 hours.  I hate to think what they think the danger..Well I know what they think the danger to the community is

<Audience laughter>

But I can't see that that's very important when you think that they're really trying to stop terrorists right now.

Michael Parkinson:   You mentioned the album there and it's been a while since you wrote a solo album. Ten years in fact.  Just about 10 years?

George Michael:  Well it's 8

Michael Parkinson:     8 Well it's a long time.


George Michael:   Yeah.

Michael Parkinson:  So why did it take this long?

George Michael:     I think... I really hate to harp on about my mother’s death, but I have to try and explain to people why it took such a long time. When
people last saw me on this show, I think I was pretty on form.    But what I didn't realize at the  time was that the whole experience of that six months, of that  
supposed “ordeal”  was really a fantastic distraction from the fact that actually I hadn't really  grieved for my mum.  And I think once that whole episode was
over, ---and really this show marked the end to that really-- it was a full stop in some ways for me at least.    Once that was done and after all that positive
reception, I just plummeted.    And really lost a grip on my spirituality really,   which in turn stopped my writing.

Michael Parkinson:  What does that mean?

George Michael:  Well, I’ve never been someone that needed organized religion, but I’ve always had very deep feelings of belief in a greater power. At
the very least at the wonder of nature, you know, in comparison to the way we play with it. I genuinely for once in my life didn't know what was happening. I
couldn't  make music and I felt I suppose  I because of two  bereavements in a row, I think I felt  incredibly  vulnerable to more loss and I was just angry.

Michael Parkinson:  What changed that over to writing the album?  And it's a very good album.  Some wonderful songs on it. Back to top form.  

George Michael:     I don't know what changed it really. Maybe it was just a matter of time.

Michael Parkinson:  One other question I wanted to ask you about that incident in America.  At that time I remember when I talked to you,   I had this
corny amateur shrink angle on  maybe it was so blatant the entire thing. Maybe you wanted to declare what you were?

George  Michael:   Now I look back and I think there were certain elements that are just undeniable you know? Apart from the fact it was Beverly Hills. It was
probably the most glamorous toilet in the world.

<Audience laughter>


If you're gonna do it, do it right and everything.

<Audience laughter>


Michael Parkinson:  So what you're saying is that in a sense subconsciously you colluded?

George Michael:   I think that subconsciously that was my way of coming out and talk about showbiz or what? I think if it hadn't happened I don think I would
have been heartbroken.   But I think my subconscious definitely led me into that situation.

Michel Parkinson:  Going back to this business of songwriting. You mentioned there the block that you had. I read that you started songwriting,
started an interest in music as a young child, because of an accident?

George Michael:   What happened was I was about eight years old.    I was running for lunch with about a thousand other children (all running as you do for
lunch).   I tripped at the top of the stairs and hit the bottom of the stairs, and slid along this floor. I don’t know if you remember from old school days but there
were those huge radiators that stuck out. Had like a point all the way across    I slid along the floor and hit this radiator and cracked my head open.  And there
are two things I remember about waking up:   One was that all the kids were gone. I'm lying there in a pool of blood and everyone's gone off to lunch.  Apart
from this one girl.     And I had these two girls that used to fight over me at 7.  I swear to God I remember their names.  I'm not going to name the plainer of the
two girls.  She wasn't plain but there was one who was a real corker.   They used to fight over me and the one that was a more homely type of girl was there
when I woke up. I was bleeding really badly and this girl was crying next to me.  But the strange thing was about  2  weeks later; I turned up at home with a
violin. I really wish I'd picked a different instrument but that was the first one that they passed around. So I spent seven years, I’d decided after two weeks that
this was not the instrument for me.   but  my parents decided you've started so you'll finish, and so I played it for seven years. Very badly I would imagine.

Michael Parkinson:  But before there'd been no interest in music?

George Michael:  There had d been no interest in music.  I had  been obsessed with bugs and insects.  And also I was ahead of average at both English
and maths.  What happened was that within 6  months I had no interest in the whole nature thing. I was obsessed with music and I couldn’t do maths.

Michael Parkinson:  Amazing isn't it?

George Michael:  I couldn't do moths and I've never actually regained my grip on maths. I’ve never told my accountants that.

Michael Parkinson:  Speaking of your accountants what's this I hear that you're actually not going to sell any more records? That you're going to let
people on the   internet have  free downloads  because you say you don't need the money?  How much money do you have to have in order before
you don’t need any George?

<George and audience laughs>


George Michael: Well my real point is…..  I'm not a socialist by any means.  Do you know what I mean?   I don’t believe in the ultimate goals of socialism.   
But at the end of the day, I kind of ...approve of capitalism. If you were going to provide it as a model that you were trying to sell to a generation of people, it
would have a ceiling on it   .Wouldn't it? It would have a ceiling somewhere so that the money didn’t just shoot from the bottom of society straight to the top the
way it does now.  now I think it's getting out of control and the whole of life is out of balance because of it. Do you know what I mean?

Michael Parkinson:  So you put a salary cap on yourself?

George Michael:    I do feel I've always been paid too much money. That's the truth. I think pop stars and  film stars

Michael Parkinson:  Footballers

George Michael:    Footballers now joined the list. Actually footballers have been way ahead of us guys for a long time.

Michael Parkinson:  It's interesting. So you put a voluntary salary cap on?

George Michael:    Yeah.  I just think I truly believe in higher taxation for the rich.   

Michael Parkinson:  Do you?

George Michael:   I've always believed that.

Michael Parkinson:  So you wouldn't scram if they put sixty p in the pound tax? You’d still live here would you?

George Michael:    I'd still live here.

Michael Parkinson:  Would you?

George Michael:  I’d still live here.  

Michael Parkinson:   There’s like a rush of people going over   you to leave the country I think.  

George Michael:   I know.    I understand that.   I understand that my politics is not something that necessarily goes with having the kind of money that I
have. My way of trying to say thank you to people for the positive…...I mean I've had 22  years of positive feedback from the public. I love my country and I
love my audience and I really respect my audience. The trouble is I don't feel like I can feel my audience through the media that we now have.

Michael Parkinson:  So that's a way of contacting them directly then?

George Michael:  Yeah. I can contact them directly. I can say look you know what?  You've made me a rich man. You can stop paying me money. I would
like to have a site that people, instead of paying me, they actually donate some money.

Michael Parkinson:  Make a donation. That's a really nice idea.

George Michael:   It would be really nice. It keeps the whole thing very positive and it’s some kind of antidote to.   As someone who thinks what they do is
a very positive thing, it's an antidote to all this negativity that is just flying at you as a famous, wealthy person.

Michael Parkinson:   But you say you're not a socialist but of course it's well documented that you’ve met Mr. Blair. Indeed you had dinner with Mr.
Blair?

George Michael:    What's that got to do with socialism?


<Audience laughter>


You walked into that one.

Michael Parkinson:  He of course would claim that the mutual attraction there was as one  rock n roller to another?

George Michael:   before the first election, I was invited to the big party with the blokes from Oasis and all that stuff and I thought no
way I’m doing that. You know, rule Britannia and cool Britannia and all that bollocks.


<Audience Laughter>

So, I wasn't prepared to do that. If I was going to be one of his supporters it had to be a private thing. Anyway, so   I met up with him. At the
end of the evening as I was about to leave, Cheri said to Tony.  And I have to say I really enjoyed the evening., charming family, charming
man.   Don't laugh it's true.

<Audience laughter>

Cheri said to me oh you’ve got to have Tony show you his guitar.  I thought  oh please don't show me your guitar I was just about to vote for you.

<Audience laughter>

You're throwing away a vote.   Sure enough they opened the little downstairs toilet and there was a little guitar..... like one of the ones you buy a 14  year old
really and a little amplifier. I don't know if he plays it on the bog?

<Audience laughter>

I've no idea? But the fact is he showed me this little guitar and my immediate thought as someone who’s always wanted to be in pop music was that means
there's some little part of you that wanted to be up there doing what I’m doing  and that means that there's something similar about our ego's and my ego is
pretty out of  control but it doesn't really matter.

Michael Parkinson:  Let's go back to the record itself.    Part of the record you made on John Lennon's piano of course which you bought?

George Michael:  The title track actually.   The title track Patience was written on that piano.  Simply because I  really truly believe that as history
progresses,  Imagine  will be seen as  the kind of centerpiece of the peace love and understanding  generation.   And  it's where it was written. It's the big
white one in the video that  everybody wants to see and you turn up and see this thing that cost me a  million and a half pounds and it kind of looks like it's
from an under funded school in Hackney.  

<Audience laughter>

It's got the original fag burns on the sides, you see him leaving his fags there. There was a film called Give Me Some Truth, during the making of Imagine and
you see him writing the song to Yoko     

Michael Parkinson:  Is it inspirational to you then in that sense?

George Michael:    It was. What I did was once I knew the title of the album in my head; I knew I was going to write this little song on the piano last. I knew it
had to be simple and I knew I wanted to write it on that piano. So I wrote it on that piano and I was going to play it on the album but I’m a bit crap.  With a real
live piano, I’m a bit crap.  You know?  So I decided to have somebody else play it. So I don't play the piano but I wrote it on that piano.

Michael Parkinson:  That's lovely. That's very nice. But you're not going to sing that tonight you're going to sing a couple of numbers.  The first
number is the single?

George Michael:    The single yeah.

Michael Parkinson:  Amazing. It's a good song it really is.

George Michael:    Thank you. Thank you very much.

Michael Parkinson:  You must be very happy with it?

George Michael:    Well it's kind of unusual to hear me singing about love really in the context of oh I’m in love. Normally it’s oh I’m so miserable love me,
love me.   


<Audience laughter>  

This song is really like, I can't believe how fantastic and life changing this relationship is.

Michael Parkinson:  Good.

George Michael:  That's a weird one for me. We’ll see if I can manage it live.

Michael Parkinson:  That's a lovely song George Michael.  Your band is  over there.





Amazing













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